- Where do you race?
How much does it cost?
- Do I need any racing experience?
- How can I see my scores?
- How does on-line registration work?
- What happens to my points when I change classes?
- How do I login to my TVR provided account?
- Why don't the Scores and Directory show up properly?
What class should I compete in?
- How does Web Sign-In work?
- What happens on race day?
- When can I practice?
What are the rider promotions for 2012?
- How does scoring work?
What is the racing schedule at the event?
What happens at the end of the season?
- What is the flagging policy?
- My child wants to race on the Pee Wee track for the first time, what equipment is mandatory they wear?
- My child wants to race in multiple classes on the PeeWee track, is this possible?
- My child was promoted on the Pee Wee track and as their parents we don't feel comfortable with this decision, what can we do?
- What are the rules for being promoted to the big track from the small track?
I want to change classes or my bike number. How do I do that?
How and when can I reserve my bike number?
How does the electronic scoring work?
- What are the elected positions and their duties?
Why does it take so long to post the scores?
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We operate on various tracks around the London area. Browse through the Venues section or the Schedule to see them.
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There is an annual membership fee of $80 for an individual, if you register by mail ($100 at the track), or $135 for a family (same address, registering by mail, or $150 at the track). There is a $30 per member flagging fee. These fees are calculated for you if you register on the Web. Included with the membership is a one year subsription to Inside Motorcycle and Inside MX magazine.
There is a charge for each day of racing. Race fees are $30 for the first class and $20 for the next class you ride. It's $10 for Youth or Supermini which are single moto, second class only. If you use Web sign in, your fees are calculated for you so you can have the correct change ready.
We accept day passes for $30 plus race fees.
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Do I need any racing experience?
No. TVR is racing for fun. Some of our members are very experienced, but many aren't.
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TVR respects the privacy of its members so any information that may contain names or personal data is protected by password. To see your scores, simply log in to your account and click the "Scores" button on the navigation menu along the left hand edge.
Only paid members can see the scores and membership directory. If you have recently joined on-line (New Member), you will not have access to scores and the directory until your payment has been received.
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How does on-line registration work?
You can become a TVR member from this Web site. Click on the New Member menu item at the left. Enter your personal data and register for one or more competition levels. Selecting your numbers on line is the best way insure you get the numbers you want.
Download the waiver and sign it to save yourself time later. Mail the waiver in with your cheque or bring everything with you to an event. Please let us know if you have registered on-line when you hand in or mail your waiver. Note that you will have to pay the membership fee plus the insurance fee. Once your payment is received, your account will be marked paid and you will show up on the score sheets (after your first race) and membership directory. The paid status also gives you access to other features like Voting.
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What happens to my points when I change classes?
If you change to a new class all the points in the old class are retained under the old registration and number. If you change your mind and go back to the original class, you will be reconnected to the old registration. You will loose ownership of the competition number in the old class. If someone else takes that number before you move back to your original class, you will have to choose a new number.
You cannot move points between classes. Moving points between classes has been an issue for a long time. It's not "fair" to the new class to have some new rider jump in from an easier class and change their standing. It may not be fair to lose your points either, but it is a simple policy and easy to manage.
We have tried several policies for moving points over the years, but none were perfect and occasionally some riders would use the rules to gain an unfair advantage. In the end, TVR racing is not about points but about having fun.
If you are interested in maximizing your points, it is best to move up before you are forced to if the class is too easy.
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How do I login to my TVR provided account?
If you signed up by mail and want to get into your account, follow these directions:
- Click the Member Login button on the main page.
- Your user name will be on your membership card if you are the account manager, or as stated on your registration form (if you don't have your card yet),
- If more than one member of your family signed up, only one is the manager. There is only ONE account for each family. One of the membership cards for your family will have a Web user ID on it. Use this to log in.
- If you did not sign up on the Web, nor supply a password on your paper forms, you can have your password e-mailed to you. If you have an e-mail address in your account, you can have your password sent to that e-mail address.
- If you can't remember your user name, e-mail us for it. You must provide some way to identify yourself, like your member ID, address and phone number.
Once you have logged in, change your password to protect your privacy.
If you don't have an e-mail address in your account, then e-mail the Webmaster with your name, phone number and address to get your password reset. (Administrators cannot see your password, but they can give you a new one.)
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Why don't the Scores and Directory show up properly?
There appears to be a bug in some older Web browsers like Netscape 4.7. To see the scores and directory properly, go to the View menu of your browser and choose "Decrease font".
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What class should I compete in?
Choosing a competition level can be confusing for first time racers. The levels in TVR are not the same as CMRC or CMX. Below is a rough guide based on the 2010 enrolment. Age range and skill levels are just guide lines, except for Vet and Youth, and the “no double jumps” in Beginner classes is enforced. Bike sizes are for two stroke racing bikes. The four stroke equivalents are:
Two stroke engine size
Four stroke equivalent
Up to 85 cc
Up to 160 cc
125 cc
200 - 250 cc
250 cc
400 - 450 cc
Ladies are allowed to ride in any other class, but not the reverse. If you are riding well above the average rider in your class you may be moved to a more challenging class, and will not be able to bring your points with you, so it’s better to move yourself early.
Level (Class)
Ages
Bikes
Skills
Tyke Orientation
4-8
50 cc Air cooled
No jumps – small track,Not scored
Tyke Beginner
4-8
50 cc
No jumps – small track
Tyke Intermediate
6-9
50 cc
Any jumps – small track
Tyke Expert
8-9
50 cc
Any jumps – small track
65 Beginner
8-11
65 cc
No jumps– small track
65 Junior
8-11
65 cc
All jumps– small track
65 Expert
8-13
65 cc
All jumps– big track
SmallWheel Beginner
11-14
85 cc
Double jumps not allowed
SmallWheel Junior
14-15
85 cc
Double jumps up to 30 feet
SmallWheel Expert
14-15
85 cc
All jumps
Open Beginner
13 andup
Any
Double jumps not allowed
Open Junior C
13 andup
Full Size
Most jumps
Open Junior B
15 andup
Full Size
All Jumps
Open Junior A
15 andup
Full Size
All Jumps
Open Intermediate
15 andup
Any
All jumps, all obstacles,fast
Open Expert
15 andup
Any
All jumps, all obstacles ,very fast
Open Vet Beginner
30 andup
Any
Double jumps not allowed
Open Vet Junior
30 andup
Any
Most or all jumps,can be fast
Open Vet Expert
30 andup
Any
All jumps, all obstacles,fast
Open Ladies
Any
Any
Any skill level (Ladies only)
Open Super Mini
Any
Small Wheel
Looking for a challenge
Open Youth
13 and up
Full Size
Junior B and below
Open GP
13 and up
Full Size
Junior A and above
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Web sign in saves you time at the event and improves the accuracy of score keeping. It is a system that allows you to "sign-in", for the races you want to compete in at the next event, from the Web. To use it, simply log in to your account and click Event Sign In from the navigation bar on the left of your main page.
You will be taken to a page listing all of the current registrations for your account. Check off the classes you plan to race and hit the Submit button. You are now signed up and your name and number will appear on the score sheets. The total fees are calculated and displayed.
When you get to the event, you still have to go to the sign-in table to pay and make sure you are confirmed as present on the score sheet. The new sign-in procedure requires that you have a waiver filled out and signed for each rider. When you Web sign-in you will have to option of having the Web site create filled out waivers for you.
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When you show up at a TVR race this is what you can expect (the time posted in the schedule is the start of sign-in):
- Park your truck or trailer in the pit area. Please leave room and access for others - TVR races tend to get crowded. If you are not carrying bikes, please park away from the pit area.
- You will need to sign in and bring your completed waiver form. If you signed up over the Web, your name and number are already on the score sheet; otherwise you have to add them. Pay your race fees at the sign in desk.
- Walk the track and make sure you are familiar with the site.
- Unpack and get ready for warm up, or if you are a worker, sign in with the worker manager and let us know you are here.
- There will be a rider's meeting where you will be given the race schedule and any last minute announcements.
- Warm up will commence as soon as the flaggers are in place. You can start your bike now. Warm ups may have their own schedule and are typically 2 to 3 laps.
- Racing begins promptly after warm up. Be ready.
- Keep an eye on the schedule and the track. There are no announcements when your class is on the line. You are responsible for getting to the starting line on time.
- Motos are about 10 minutes long and the green flag may go before the last rider is off the track from the previous race.
- After the first rotation there will be the worker break and possibly track maintenance.
- The second rotation begins promptly after the break.
- You can leave after your second race.
- Scores are posted on the Web site, usually within 48 hours unless there are problems.
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Most tracks provide access so you can practice. This information is included in the "Access" field on the Venues page.
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What are the rider promotions for 2012?
You can view the promotions from the Fall series here.
Small Track
Tyke Beginner to Tyke Intermediate
#4 - Brett Alton
#88 - Ben Verhoeven
Tyke Intermediate to Tyke Expert
#710 - Hayden Wilcox
#99 - Kenny Henderson
Suggested move from 65 Junior to 65 Expert (at discretion of parents)
#164 - Wyatt Kerr
Big Track
Junior C to Junior B
#232 Andy Cule
Junior B to Junior A
#141 Wade Williams
Intermediate to Expert
#951 Bradley VanLeeuwen
#110 Colin Vermeersch
Vet Beginner to Vet Junior
#11 Wes Bogart
#89 Brad Johnson
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The top 20 finishers get points based on their finishing position according to the following scheme:
Finish Points Finish Points Finish Points Finish Points 1 25 6 15 11 10 16 5 2 22 7 14 12 9 17 4 3 20 8 13 13 8 18 3 4 18 9 12 14 7 19 2 5 16 10 11 15 6 20 1 Points are assigned for each moto of the event. At the end of the event, each rider's points are added up for all the motos they rode (0 for DNF or DNS). The totals are ranked from highest to lowest, and then the highest score is given first place points for the day, the next highest score is given second place points for the day, etc. If two totals are the same, the placement at the last moto is used to resolve the tie.
The day scores are the ones you see on the Web site in the score sheets, and the day scores are added up to give your overall ranking. You will see your overall ranking, individual day scores, and average day score on the score sheet.
Note: DFN stands for Did Not Finish, which means the rider never crossed the finish line after the checkered flag. The number of laps a rider completes does not matter. DNS stands for Did Not Start, which means that the rider never appeared on the start line.
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What is the racing schedule at the event?
The Referee will let you know the racing schedule after sign in is complete. Sometimes classes will be merged to fill the gate but only with riders that are of the same ability.
If the event name is underlined it is a link to the race day schedule.
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What happens at the end of the season?
The scores will be available until the end of the season. Your bike registrations will expire on the first day of the new season, but the information reamins in your account. You must register again next season to keep your numbers. You can "renew" any numbers you rode up to 2 weeks prior to the end of the season. These numbers will be reserved when the new season starts. Top riders will be promoted to higher classes based on your average score.
If you want to make any changes to the way your account is set up, do so after the awards banquet. Paid accounts cannot be deleted until they expire at the begining of the next season. If you would like your accout removed, ask an administrator. We use the accounts on this system to generate our mail-outs for next season, and for renewing bike numbers. Please insure that your contact information is correct and up to date!
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The policy for member's flagging duties is:
- Everyone pays a $30 flagging fee as part of their registration.
- Anyone who flags will get paid $50 at the end of the day.
- You can sign up to flag for any event through the Web site.
- If all the necessary spots are not filled, we will offer those positions at the race.
- If the event is overbooked for flaggers, the positions are given out on a first-come basis. So please see the flagging manager as soon as you arrive.
- Flaggers must be capable of performing the necessary duties.
- There will be a 30 minute lunch during the day.
- Members assigned to an event must register their flagger with the Flagger Manager before signing in.
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We recommend motocross boots, but we will accept any BOOT that is above the childs ankle. Full face helmet and goggles, and gloves are mandatory. As are long pants and a long sleeve shirt. Knee and elbow protection is also mandatory, mx, hockey, skateboard, or rollerblade equipment will be accepted. Also we strongly recommend some sort of chest and shoulder protection.
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My child wants to race in multiple classes on the PeeWee track, is this possible?
Yes it is possible to race in multiple classes but the restrictions are as follows; Your rider can not ride on the Pee Wee track if they race on the adult track,( you can't race 50 EXPERT+65 EXPERT, or 65 INTERMEDIATE+SWB).You can not race in TYKE BEGINNER if you race in any other division. For your child to race a 50 and a 65 they FIRST MUST be racing in TYKE EXPERT. Then they are welcome to race 65 INTERMEDIATE.NOTE you MUST declare to Minitrack Officials at the start of the series, which class you intend to race for the championship,once riding in both classes you will only be eligible to win the championship in ONE division but you are eligible to collect weekly prizes in the other class. At the end of the series if you declared points in the slower class (50 EXPERT) and your child finishes in the top 3(as top 3 are awarded at the banquet),your child will automatically be collecting points for the following series in the faster division (65).They will still be eligible to collect weekly prizes in the 50 EXPERT class.Remember we are a club and one of our goals is to get as many kids on stage at the banquet as possible. The purpose of allowing riders in multiple classes is to aid in their development not to get more awards
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The first concern of the Minitrack Officials is always SAFETY! We also try very hard to ensure fair and challenging competition in all our classes. We acknowledge that young riders progress at different paces, that is why we have remained with 3 series.With this said, our objective is to place a young rider where they will be challenged to their ability, while not compromizing safety. As the riders guardians we respect... and WILL honour your decision for safety reasons ONLY.We will NOT promote your child to either the adult track, or a faster class, because we recognize this as a SAFETY issue and your child will remain in their current class. They will NOT be scored. The promotion will only be implemented at such time with the approval of the riders guardians.
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What are the rules for being promoted to the big track from the small track?
For your child to be permitted to ride on the big track, new riders must first be evaluated before being permitted to race the big track and those current members must have previously finished in or currently be in the top 5 in 65 junior. If the rider is currently in 65 junior with an average (based on a minimum of 2 races) equal to or greater than those currently in in the top 5 they may also be promoted to the big track. Points cannot be transferred to the big track results.
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I want to change classes or my bike number. How do I do that?
You can change classes (e.g. promote yourself), or change you bike details, including your competition number from your TVR user account. When you log in to your account, there will be a Register button next to each class you are registered in. Click the button of the class you want to change. Select the new level (class) you want to compete in from the drop down at the top, or select a new number from the drop down at the bottom.
NOTE: If your number does not appear in the drop down at the bottom after changing levels, it means that the number is already in use. You will need to pick a new number and change the number on your bike.
NOTE: If you add a class or switch up to the big track, your registration will need a transponder code. If you have an existing code from another class, please enter that code, otherwise ask for a transponder from the membership manager.
IF YOU RUN MULTIPLE CLASSES: Make sure you have the same transponder code for all. The system can handle situations where you might need different transponders for different classes (e.g. if the transponder is on your bikes and you use different bikes), but we use transponders on each person.
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How and when can I reserve my bike number?
The TVR Web site tracks all the bike numbers and controls who can have which numbers. At the start of each season all the numbers are freed up and are available on a first come first served basis. The start and end dates of the season are displayed at the top of the TVR home page.
You can renew any numbers you competed up to 2 weeks before the start of the next season. You can do this with the Register button next to the class you want to renew. If the button on the registrations details says "Renew" then that number can be renewed.
To reserve a new number, log in to your account and Register your bike in the class(es) you want to compete in for the season. You have to do this AFTER the season starts
If you want to race the same bike in two classes, make sure you can get the same number in both classes.
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How does the electronic scoring work?
Why does the score sheet say 15 min plus 1 lap, or 10 laps?
We run 10 min. + 1 lap motos, the reason for the discrepancy is that the computer stops the race and we can’t enter any more data for that race. It is done just to give us a few minutes to bring out the last lap flag before the computer locks up if the flagger doesn't notice the time has expired and brings out the white flag at 10 min. time.
Why if we run 10 min. + 1 lap, why are do some of the race times seem less than 10 min + how long it would take the leader to do another lap?
When it comes to putting out the white flag, if the leader is closer to 10 minutes than they are to 9 min on that lap we will issue the white flag.
What does it mean if a rider does not have a lap time in all of the columns?
For every lap that a rider completes, they receive a lap time in a column. The columns represent the number of laps that were run in a race. If your rider has no lap time in say for example 2 columns they were 2 laps behind the leader.
The column with the riders overall time tells us the finishing order of the moto. The rider with the most laps and the shortest elapsed time is the winner. The rider with an elapsed time greater than but closest to the winners CROSSED the finish line second... But this does not mean that they finished the moto in second place!!!!!
How do we know what the final order of the moto is?
The computer arranges the final order from top to bottom in the chart.
My rider had a total elapsed time that was quicker than that of the winner, does this mean that the scorers made a mistake and my child should have been the winner?
No it does not; you must complete ALL the laps. As mentioned earlier the leader is the rider that determines how many laps are in each moto.
Why when we check our child’s lap times do we find that sometimes the times differ greatly from one lap to another?
We try to score a rider in the same spot on every lap, with that said if we have a bunch of riders heading towards the scorekeeper at once and it is not the final lap. The scorekeeper may start recording numbers a little early. This is done because unless it is the last lap all the score keeper is doing is giving a rider credit for all the laps that they have completed.
I see that my child was running consistent lap times within a couple of seconds of each other until a certain lap. Their lap time increased by say 20 seconds on that lap. Why is this?
This is usually the result of a rider falling on that lap. The lap times make it very easy to track a rider’s progress through a race.
You have scored my child 2 laps down and I watched my child and I know that this did not happen!!!!!
We receive this concern many times throughout the year. With electronic scoring it is very easy to find the laps that your rider encountered a problem. At this point you need to observe the lap times of the leader and subtract their time from your child’s time for that lap. This gives you a reference of time to know how far behind the leader your child is, and how much time your child continues to loose to the leader. Once you check the leaders lap times you can get a idea of how long it takes to complete a lap. If you add up all the time that your rider lost to the leader you will find that it is equal to the number of laps that they were scored behind the leader.
You have scored my child 1 lap down and I am absolutely positive that they were on the lead lap!!!!!
We are human and sometimes errors occur. With the electronic scoring if a parent comes to us with this information we are able to proof read the raw data. If this error occurs it is VERY easy to find. What we will see is FIRST there will be no lap time in the final column. SECONDLY we will find a lap that is very close to exactly double what your rider’s average lap times have been for that moto. This usually indicates that we missed giving your child credit for 1 lap. With this said we will gladly give a child credit for the missed lap. However for us to change the scoring your rider must have displayed a REASONABLE number of consistent lap times to allow us to determine an average lap time. What we find is, usually the riders on the lead lap display the most consistent lap times
Why after the final scores are posted and the awards are presented do the scores sometimes change on the website?
Parents need to remember that day riders are scored ONLY for the weekly awards. They are NOT scoredas far as series points are concerned. So if some one that finished ahead of your child was a day rider, your child will move up a position when the scores are entered.
Why when my child crosses the finish line in a certain position, the final scoring once posted, often has them in a different position from that which they received the checkered flag. Why is this?
The checkered flag is given based on the leaders position, the leader may be the only rider on the lead lap. The leader determines how many laps are run in a timed moto. After the leader finishes the race.. everyone else receives the checkered flag letting them know that the race has been completed. Almost always the finishing order of the race will not match the final race results. Sometimes the rider that crosses the finish line last is actually in second place. In this example the leader lapped everyone except 2nd place.
My son or daughter finished 3rd in the first moto and they finished 5th in the 2nd moto. When we average the finishing positions together they must have finished 4th, correct?
We do not add the riders final positions together and then average them out. Each rider is given a numerical raw score for each moto. The riders scores are added together from moto 1 and moto 2. The rider with the highest raw score is the winner for the day. Points per moto are awarded as follows: 1st=25 points,2nd=22 points. 3rd=20 points. 4th=18 points. 5th=16 points.6th=15 points. 7th= 14 points 8th= 13points…..etc. to 20th=1 point. Any rider finishing below 20th position will receive zero points. For example a rider that finishes first motos would have a raw score of 50 points. A rider that finished 3rd in one moto and 5th in the other moto would receive 20+16=36 points for the day. If there is a tie with a rider’s raw score the finishing order of the second moto will be used as the tie breaker. Once the raw scores are tallied riders receive the final points for the day,with the winner receiving 25 points.2nd=22 points.3rd=20 points.4th=18points. 5th=16 points.6th=15 points.7th=14points. In the event that classes are greater than 20 riders, all riders that finish below 20th position will receive no points.
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What are the elected positions and their duties?
(Please note: This is a first draft based on common practices, and may be changed by by-laws we adopt.)
President
General Duties
- Preside at all meetings of the club.
- Appoint committees as needed.
- Inform members regarding the activities and progress of the club and its financial condition.
- Execute agreements and legal instruments together with any other officer of the club as permitted by law and/or rules of the club (e.g., sign checks).
- Guide board in making sure the interests of the general membership are served in terms of programs, range of enjoyable member activities, etc.
- Request reports from committee chairs as required.
- Ensure that long-term plans are made for meetings, programs, (i.e., maintain calendar).
Board Meetings
- Conduct board meetings.
- Provide a meeting agenda.
Secretary
- Take minutes at meetings. Distribute them to board members at least 10 days before next board meeting. Minutes to include reminder of next board meeting date.
- Send announcements of other meetings as needed, giving at least 10 days notice.
- Maintain current list of members.
Treasurer
- Collect, record, and deposit checks for membership.
- Provide cash box for races.
- Pay all bills.
- Keep complete and accurate accounts of finances, showing receipts, disbursements, balances, and locations of bank accounts, etc.
- Provide monthly financial statement to board.
Directors
- Represent the interests of the Thames Valley Riders membership at large in the financial planning and general administration of TVR.
- Develop membership by recruiting new members and making new members and visitors feel welcome. Scout for potential leaders or helpers and inform Nominating Committee and other relevant committee chairs.
- Present ideas to the board concerning ways to improve TVR and/or to further its mission.
- Chair or serve on ad hoc committees as needed.
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Why does it take so long to post the scores?
- Some riders aren't registered in the proper classes.
- Some riders do not ride under the # they are registered in.
- Some riders do not ride with numbers on their bikes.
- Some riders ride for other riders.
- Some riders leave with the wrong group on staggered starts.
- Some riders ride in the wrong class.
- New members must be registered.
- Some riders don't use Web sign-in.
- Some riders don't wear their transponders, or don't have them registered properly (note: when you add a class, you need to register a transpondr for that class).
All these reasons must be resolved before scores can be tabulated and added to the system...
For these reasons and probably a few more (double header race)...the scores take an extremely long time to figure out.
Due your part and sign up and ride under the proper (clean) number for the proper class.